gingerism

Jun. 6th, 2007 04:35 pm
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Here's a joke. "What's the difference between a terrorist and a redhead?"

Here's the punchline. "You can negotiate with a terrorist."


LOL!!!! What nonsense. :o)

God, people are always looking for something to get self-pitying about, aren't they? As if it kinda removes the obligation to go out and grasp the day. Grow the hell up and stop whining.

Date: 2007-06-06 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajva.livejournal.com
Totally agree about the comparison to racism. Utter codswollop.

Date: 2007-06-06 04:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] babysimon
I don't know if you watch The Daily Show, but they go round interviewing people like that - and always ask them if they feel like Rosa Parks.

Date: 2007-06-06 05:04 pm (UTC)
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Interesting. I have an odd sort of doublethink on this. If we're comparing history, number of people affected, likelihood of the Police hassling you and so on, then I agree entirely. If we're talking levels of acceptability, I don't.

I think it's because 'discrimination on the grounds of hair colour is unacceptable' is, for me, an absolute statement. Such discrimination just as acceptable as discrimination on the grounds of race: its level of acceptability is zero. When considering levels of acceptability, it doesn't seem helpful to me to consider whether one is 'worse' than the other; they're both unacceptable, and that's all that needs to be said.

I realise that's a bit of an odd position for someone who doesn't believe in right and wrong to take (but then I'm a bit of an odd example of such a person). I may need to poke at it a bit more.

Date: 2007-06-06 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajva.livejournal.com
Perhaps we need some kind of Godel's Diagonal Proof for non-countable unacceptability?

Forgive me - am in frivolous mood. :o)

Date: 2007-06-07 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajva.livejournal.com
Is it good or bad that, while my alarm clock was having a real hard time of it getting me out of bed this morning, the sudden random realisation that I had written "Godel" instead of "Cantor" in this particular comment got me out of bed like a rocket and scurrying to the computer to correct myself? :o)

Date: 2007-06-07 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
Hey, Godel's proof is also a diagonal proof so that's OK!

Date: 2007-06-07 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajva.livejournal.com
Phew! Thank goodness for that!

That's in the last unit of the course I was doing currently (in abeyance for obvious personal reasons atm) so I hadn't seen it yet. :o)

Date: 2007-06-07 11:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] djm4
Possibly. ;-)

It strikes me that the proof that 1=2 is actually a spookily accurate analogy for this, involving as it does a sneaky multiplication of both sides by zero. That's not that dismilar to:

A is unacceptable. B is unacceptable. Therefore A and B are as bad as each other in all other respects.

...which seems to be how the argument in the article is running.

Date: 2007-06-07 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ajva.livejournal.com
Yes, that's kind of what I was aiming at. Your comprehension is much appreciated. :o)

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