more boring economics stuff

[ajva]

I know people must think by now that I'm some kind of nutter Jeremiah-esque permabear muttering away in the corner and stinking of whisky, but in case you were wondering, it's things like this graph that make me wonder if we could be facing a total global meltdown economically, originating in the fundamental insolvency of the world's banking system.

Just saying. *swigs from bottle in brown bag*

Mind you, I remember my Dad saying something similar back in 1986 or thereabouts, so I expect everything will turn out OK.

Comments

[ajva.livejournal.com]

Yes, but I wouldn't say it's entirely good news for Europe, if only because so many foreign countries hold so much of their wealth in US$-denominated assets. Also, of course, in the event of a sudden slide in the dollar's value, exports to the US would plunge as American consumers could no longer afford imported goods. That would have an immediate impact on the real economies of countries all over the world.

Basically, I expect it all comes down to not just whether it happens, but if so whether it happens slowly enough for the rest of us to adjust and muddle through. Or not.

[conflux.livejournal.com]

A switch from US to European currency just results in an economic adjustment not a collapse, as it is happening in a fairly predictable way and is likely to help the UK in the long run and reduce US influence. It will be very bad for the US though and it remains to be seen if the big US institutions can adapt fast enough. As Soph points out, the other big problem is the huge exposure of many banks and financial institutions coupled with the uncertainty introduced by the recent instability in the energy market especially as this is not just a US problem.

[ajva.livejournal.com]

Yes, I don't dispute that. I'm just dubious that the Euro could really be a viable long-term alternative to the US dollar in terms of becoming a world reserve currency. It's barely a decade old and hasn't really been tested yet - and it has problems too (some quite similar to those of the dollar, I think, although others all of its own). At the moment, its principal attraction seems to be that it's a large first world currency that isn't the dollar. I hate to say it, but I'm not convinced that that's going to prove to be enough.

If I'm wrong, though, then that's obviously good news for Europe. However, I'm not sure an ECB-policy-led financial world would be terribly good either for us all. I used to be in favour of the UK joining the Euro as part of my generally pro-European poliical position, but now I think it would scupper our economy quite badly to cede control of our economic policy in that way. I think it is also scuppering the economies of a lot of the Euroland countries already. Ireland, for example, is now undergoing a very harsh, fast re-adjustment of its housing market because when the Euro launched its base rates became immediately aligned with what the ECB set as base rates for the Eurozone - in other words they were slashed, which suddenly encouraged a huge bubble in the Irish housing market.